Continuing Education, Return to Sport, and the DorsaVi with Mike St. George PT, DPT and Ryan Stahl PT, DPT

Season 3, Episode 10 | Podcast #46

Today we are getting after it with a couple of jersey guys. Physical Therapists by trade and sports therapists by passion, Mike St. George and Ryan Stahl. We will be diving headfirst into sports medicine rehabilitation, return to play protocols, and bridging the gap a little more efficiently with The DorsaVi, movement analysis software that is now being utilized at Ivy Rehab.

Mike St. George has his Doctorate of Physical Therapy from the University of the Sciences located in the heart of West Philly. Mike is the Clinic Director at Ivy Rehab in Warminster, Pennsylvania. Mike has 10+ years of experience with areas of expertise in sports performance, return to sport, runners, endurance athletes, and hand injuries. He is trained in the Functional Movement Systems Philosophy including the FMS or Functional Movement Screening, SFMA or Selective Functional Movement Assessment, and FCS or Functional Capacity Screening. He has authored several articles Endurlite.com is the Co-Host of “The Coach Hos Podcast” and is a competitive Spartan Race athlete himself.

Ryan Stahl earned his Doctorate of Physical Therapy from Arcadia University just outside of Philly in Glenside PA. He underwent residency training and achieved his Board Specialization in Orthopedics in 2020. He has been published in the International Journal of Sports Physical Therapy for Return to Sport Protocol following Nonoperative Ulnar Collateral ligament Tear in Fighting Athletes, and in The Journal of Scientific Research for Nutrition Considerations in Enhancing Patient Outcomes. He currently serves as Sports Performance Director for the Ivy Rehab Network, and currently treats in Cherry Hill New Jersey.

In this episode, we cover: 

4:00 How Mike St George and Ryan Stahl got into Physical Therapy and Sports Medicine

6:00 The coursework Mike St George and Ryan Stahl took that best directed their skillset towards sports medicine.

8:00 Why continuing education is so important for all psychical therapists.

11:00 How their access to online courses and an abundance of resources has changed Mike and Ryan’s approach to treating and assessing athletes.

“Just cause you saw an influencer do it doesn’t mean it’s appropriate to do with a patient.” 

12:45 The benefits of doing an orthopedics residency according to Ryan Stahl.

“You take a little bit of everything from everyone you see” - Ryan Stahl

16:40 During assessments and treatments, you need to be looking at the whole body. Always look above and below the joint.

26:00 “A lot of PT is getting people out of pain” - Mike St. George. 

26:00 You need to solidify your foundation and move well without compensating. 

27:00 Joel Embiid’s 2014 ​​stress fracture in his right foot as an example.

28:30 How PTs can stay in their lane in terms of movement and work in tandem with athletes’ specialized coaches. 

29:30 What the major pitfalls of Return to Sport Protocols are according to Ryan Stahl and Mike St. George.

32:00 Athletes are destroying their bodies just to get through the sport. 

34:00 PTs and athletes need to have a better understanding of the pitfalls of return to sport and tailoring it to the movements they will be doing when they return.

35:00 “Is your training speaking the language of your sport” Kelly Start 

36:00 Mike St. George’s advice for year-round athletes. 

38:00 Why improved communication between coaches, PTs, and doctors is so necessary. 
40:30 What is the DorsaVi? The DorsaVI is a wearable sensor technology that allows PTs to quantify data that was previously only qualitative and that allows PTs to know if their program is working. 

42:30 How testing with the DorsaVi is different or better than traditional testing. It gets rid of eye testing and lets PTs know what is really working. 

45:20 How unskilled PT programs impact the reputation of all physical therapists and how they are hurting athletes. 

50:00 The tests and movements Mike and Ryan prefer doing on the DorsaVI to get the best assessments and treatments. 

52:30 The Quickboard and other technologies will create more robust training programs that aren’t hyper-focused on specialized sports movements. 

54:00 Use at-home exercises to reinforce the movements and then in the clinic time to advance to more complex movements. 

56:00 What Ryan Stahl has put together for the Return to Sport program with Ivy Rehab. 

1:00 There needs to be better education on what physical therapists do and how they help people. The profession is really progressing and PTs need to catch up.

1:04:11 Medicine is an art and a science and as a profession PTs have to constantly be working to gather data, fix the pitfalls, and gain a greater understanding.

10:5:40 It’s not about having fancy equipment, it’s knowing how to use it and having a system that will allow you to utilize them. 

1:06:18 How Ivy Rehab is giving its PTs room to evolve and room to create a standard in the world of physical therapy. 

“Winners focus on winning, losers focus on winners” - Mike St. George

Contact

LinkedIn Mike St George 

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Coach Hous Podcast 

Ryan Stahl LinkedIn 

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